Not with 20,000, not with 100,000.

The idea that an increase in numbers will solve this Iraqi mess fails all tests of logic. An insurgency cannot be broken, it is tempered like steel and is part of the mindset of the people in the region. They see a foreign power come in and remove their government, they see thousands of people die, their electricity doesn't work, their homes are rubble, no water and lack of food; they look at this situation and blame it on the most obvious and immediate group, the occupying power. Regardless of our original intentions, we have severely screwed up the country of Iraq, our cowboy attitude and lack of foresight has left the Iraqi people worse off that they were half a decade ago. Yet our President, our leader thinks he can solve this by sending in more people with machine guns? Sure, maybe in a John Wayne move, but this is the real world and regional politics and mindsets do not change on a whim. They did not greet us as liberators at the start of the war, they will not welcome another surge.